+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Canadian Over-the-air Television Stations Are Going Digital on August 31, 2011

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    1,831

    Default Canadian Over-the-air Television Stations Are Going Digital on August 31, 2011

    I just wanted to share this with the CANADA HiFi readers who receive their TV signals over-the-air. This is from the Product News of the upcoming issue of CANADA HiFi:

    Why are we switching to digital television? One of the main reasons for the switch is the need for more spectrum, commonly referred to as frequencies or airwaves. Spectrum is used for wireless telephone services, emergency communications, etc. Digital signals use less airwave space than analog signals. This means that the freed up space can be used for other services that have a high demand for more space. Digital technology also provides better picture and sound. By August 31, 2011, Canadian local television stations in certain areas will stop broadcasting in analog and begin broadcasting in digital. The majority of Canadians will not be affected however. If you receive your TV signals by cable, satellite or another TV service, the switch to digital will not affect you. The switch to digital may affect television viewers who receive local over-the-air TV stations using an outdoor antenna or “rabbit ears”. Once the switch occurs, these viewers will need to purchase a digital converter box or a television with a digital (ATSC) tuner, or consider a switch to a cable or satellite TV provider. Those who wish to continue receiving over-the-air television should also consider buying a high quality antenna to receive as many channels as possible – we recommend antennas from Nippon Antenna (distributed in Canada by Karmond Company, 416-816-9848, www.karmond.com). www.crtc.gc.ca
    Suave Kajko | Westside Publishing Ltd. | 416-767-2495
    Publisher | CANADA HiFi Magazine | www.canadahifi.com
    President | TAVES | www.taveshow.com
    Gate Keeper | Guydster | www.guydster.com


  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Oakville, ON
    Posts
    252

    Default

    Timely post for me Suave! I'm about to cancel my Bell HD service as I just can't justify the $90 bill each month. I watch TV about an hour a day at most, so goodbye service and hello OTA! Out of the two INDOOR antennae listed on the karmond site, which one would you recommend? I live on the fourth floor of an apartment, and I can only accomodate an indoor antenna.
    John - I love the smell of vinyl in the morning!

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    1,831

    Default

    The Nippon antennas are not labled very clearly on the home page of the distributor website. There are actually more than 2 indoor models - including the UDF60 and UDF80. I have Roger digital cable but I also have the UDF80 on the roof of my house. The UDF80 is both an indoor/outdoor antenna. At the time I picked it up, I tried a few different antennas from different manufacturers and this one beat all of them, hands down. It is more expensive than other antennas but if you want to pick up the maximum number of channels, this is definitely the one to go with. If you have a balcony, that would be the best place to install it (especially if it faces towards the CN tower). Otherwise, you should play around with indoor placement to get the optimal number of channels.

    You can find authorized dealers here: http://www.karmond.com/contact.htm
    Suave Kajko | Westside Publishing Ltd. | 416-767-2495
    Publisher | CANADA HiFi Magazine | www.canadahifi.com
    President | TAVES | www.taveshow.com
    Gate Keeper | Guydster | www.guydster.com

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    THX/ISF Video Calibrator Serving Southern Ontario/GTA/Niagara & Yukon
    Posts
    279

    Default

    Suave - I'm also in the same boat. I have only OTA (no subscriptions) and just realized I only have a few weeks left before the transition. If this is the antenna you recommend, then I'll consider it. I have a large 40ft tower at the side of my house; I'm assuming that this will be good enough to pick up anything from Toronto, Niagara, and New York? My outdoor UHF/VHF currently picks up a few HD channels (CHCH and three Buffalo stations), so I imagine with the correct one installed, I'll be good to go. The AU-14F is a digital antenna, I guess, even though it says UHF?? On the specs it says digital - just want to be sure!
    Last edited by Mike Osadciw; 08-06-2011 at 06:01 PM.
    Mike Osadciw
    THX/ISF Professional Video Calibrator
    HIGHEST FIDELITY CALIBRATIONS 905.730.5996

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    1,831

    Default

    Mike - since you're a good distance away from the CN tower, I would likely go with the Nippon UDF100 antenna model. If you install this on your 40ft tower, you should definitely get a nice number of Canadian HD channels and a couple of US ones too.

    Note that although many antenna manufacturers label their antennas "digital" there is no such thing as a digital antenna really. All antennas will pick up digital HD channels. What you do need to know is:

    - that you need a TV with a built-in ATSC (digital) tuner to pick up digital channels (or an external ATSC tuner, if using an older TV set)
    - that a higher gain antenna will allow you to pick up more channels (this is why I'm recommending these Nippon antennas)
    Suave Kajko | Westside Publishing Ltd. | 416-767-2495
    Publisher | CANADA HiFi Magazine | www.canadahifi.com
    President | TAVES | www.taveshow.com
    Gate Keeper | Guydster | www.guydster.com

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    151

    Default

    I have 2 HD televisions. One tv has a Rogers HD box for receiving broadcasts and my other tv only gets fed OTA HD. I have been using OTA HD for over a year and it's been awesome.

    I helped a couple of friends in Toronto aim their antenna. It can take a bit of trial and error but I found that if I aim the antenna in such a way as to get the strongest signal from NBC (channel 2.1), the remaining US stations come in quite nicely without further adjustments.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Toronto - East York
    Posts
    27

    Default

    I get 36 digital channels from my rooftop outdoor Winegard hd7697p with a Channel Master 7778 pre-amp. Like it or not, size counts with antennas. The radio waves travelling through the air have different wave lengths. If you want an antenna that provides real gain (not just electrically amplified gain) then your antenna will have to be cut to the right length -- as my antenna has been. An antenna that has real gain is the only kind of antenna that can pull a weak TV station out of the noise -- the electrical amplifier can then give those weak channels the boost they need to travel through the rg6 coax and through your splitters without being subject to further losses in the lines. An amplifier can only amplify the signals that the antenna picks up. A small antenna is not cut to the right length to be efficient. It just picks up whatever it picks up. The only way to build an efficient antenna with real gain is by cutting the elements and directors to the correct length and by spacing them out properly. It's physics - there's not way around it. Small antennas compromise perfomance for looks and ease-of-use -- and that isn't a bad thing. If it happens to work, then that's great.

    I get from East York:

    2.1 NBC
    2.2 Universal Sports Network
    2.3 Retro TV -- old TV shows
    4.1 CBS
    5.1 CBC
    7.1 ABC
    9.1 CTV
    11.1 CHCH
    17.1 PBS
    17.2 PBS SD
    17.3 PBS Think Bright -- Also shows PBS World content - It's like getting a second PBS channel.
    19.1 TVOntario
    23.1 TheCW
    25.1 Radio-Canada
    26.1 TCT1 SD - These are religious channels
    26.2 TCT2 HD
    26.3 TCT Kids - This channel shows some old sitcoms and Bonanza late at night.
    26.4 La Fuente - Spanish religious
    29.1 Fox
    29.2 The Country Network - Music videos all the time
    36.1 CTS
    41.1 Global
    47.1 Omni 1
    49.1 MyTV Buffalo
    49.2 The Cool TV - Pop/Rock/Hip-Hop/Retro music videos all the time.
    51.1 ION -- Lots of recent dramas in syndication (Without a Trace, Ghost Whisperer, Criminal Minds, etc)
    51.2 qubo - 24/7 children's cartoons
    51.3 ION Life - similar to HDTV/Slice
    57.1 CityTV
    66.1 Sun News Network
    67.1 WBBZ - has NY Yankees games
    67.2 ThisTV - old movies - generally pretty good movies.
    67.3 MeTV - old sitcoms mostly such as Happy Days, Mary Tyler-More, etc., some old dramas such as Dragnet.
    67.4 Daystar - religious
    69.1 Omni 2

    There is still one analog channel. rf15 Star Ray from Toronto, Main & Gerrard. It is low power so it is hard to get. I get it because I'm nearby the transmitter.

    My antenna is aimed at the hardest-to-get station WBBZ from Buffalo broadcasting on rf7 (virtual 67.1, 2, 3, 4). Because of my fixed aim, CHCH and CTS are finicky for me. CTV2 from Barrie on rf10 (virtual 3.1) is also there for the taking with my antenna, but Barrie is north. To lock-in to all of these channels, I'd need to add a rotor, which I plan to do.

    Those Nippon antennas are nice and compact but they are suburban antennas designed to work well with relatively strong signals. They look good and they are small. If these are considerations, then the Nippon antennas are with considering. We are lucky in Toronto because the strongest signals coming from Buffalo happen to be the main networks that everyone generally knows about and wants. The channels that a Nippon antenna is likely to have trouble with are ones that you might not care that much about. So if you go with a Nippon antenna, you'll likely be happy with your results, but you can't expect to get year round reception on all of the channels that are available to you with a larger antenna.

    If you need an antenna with real gain (not amplified gain through electricity), then you need a larger antenna. If you're lucky enough to have a tower in your yard, you should definitely get an antenna like mine.

    Note also that the Nippon antennas appear to be UHF-only antennas. In Toronto we have TV stations that broadcast on the UHF band, but also on the VHF band. The Toronto -area VHF stations are CFTO CTV Toronto on channel 9, CHCH Hamilton on channel 11, CKVR CTV2 Barrie on channel 10, and WBBZ Buffalo on channel 7. It appears that CFTO's signal from the CN Tower might be strong enough that even UHF-only antennas within a reasonable distance will work in spite of themselves. But if you're in Toronto, don't expect to have a chance to pick-up WBBZ, CHCH, or CKVR with a UHF antenna.

    VHF-Low Band = Channels 2 to 6
    FM Radio Band = Between Channels 6 and 7
    VHF-High Band = Channel 7 to 13
    UHF Band = Channels 14 to 51

    As of September 1, TV stations can appear anywhere between channels 2 through 51. In the GTA, there happens to be stations only ranging from channels 7 through 51. So if you want the best antenna setup then you need a combo VHF-high / UHF antenna or two separate antennas - one UHF and one high-VHF joined together by either an amplifier or a UVSJ (UHF/VHF Splitter/Joiner). If you don't care about CHCH, CKVR, and WBBZ, then you might be able to get away with a UHF-only antenna but you risk not picking up CFTO CTV Toronto on Channel 9. An advantage for consumers of UHF is that the wavelengths are quite narrow so UHF antennas can be smaller than VHF antennas.

    Best of luck and enjoy the free HDTV that is yours if you want it!

    PS: The only TV station in the GTA over channel 51 is Sun News Network on rf66, but they have special permission to stay on the air until end of October 2011 and then they will be shutting off for good and becoming a cable-only station.

    PPS: If you really want a smaller antenna that can easily be mounted on a wall or roof, and you are prepared to go with a UHF-only antenna, then my recommendation, for what it's worth, is a Channel Master 4221hd. You can mount it using a satellite mount. If you need to later, you can add a pre-amplifier such as the Channel Master 7778. Aim at Buffalo. Probably aiming at WGRZ (NBC Buffalo real channel 33, virtual 2.1,2,3) is best. Don't buy no-name clones. I suggest learning about Channel Master, Antennas Direct, Winegard, and Antennacraft.

    If you really like the appearance of the Nippon antennas also read about the Winegard Square Shooter. Read the specs and compare.
    Last edited by HWP; 09-01-2011 at 04:38 PM.
    Over-the-Air TV Enthusiast
    Winegard HD7697P, Channel Master 7778 pre-amp, Grounded
    All Major US & Canadian Networks in High Definition - 37 Total Channels - Free

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    1,831

    Default

    Thank you very much for sharing this detailed information with us HWP. This is fantastic info for anyone looking to receive over-the-air channels!!
    Suave Kajko | Westside Publishing Ltd. | 416-767-2495
    Publisher | CANADA HiFi Magazine | www.canadahifi.com
    President | TAVES | www.taveshow.com
    Gate Keeper | Guydster | www.guydster.com

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts